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Published At September 22, 2022
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Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

I am a 33-year-old male, I recently had unprotected sex with one paid sex worker, and I noticed bleeding on my penis frenulum during sex. So after 11 days, I got her tested for HIV. One report was negative, but another report was positive. Her HIV 1 RNA shows 51 copies, so what could be her viral load 11 days back? Currently, I am taking tablet Trioday and tablet Udiliv 600 mg. Shall I take it for 28 days or 30 days? HIV 1 PCR report shows undetectable viral load after two weeks of Trioday. Shall I get tested again? Kindly help.

Hello,

Welcome to icliniq.com.

Thank you for your query.

I understand your concern. I reviewed your reports (attachment removed to protect the patient's identity).

Can you send the PCR (polymerase chain reaction) of your partner?

The load of 50 copies of HIV (human immunodeficiency virus) RNA (ribonucleic acid) indicates less viral load, so the chance of transmission is low. But still, as you had unprotected sexual intercourse with bleeding from the frenulum. So, I suggest you continue the medication for 28 days.

At the end of the third and sixth months, get your blood tested for HIV 1/2 Ab test using ELISA (enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay). You can also go for P24 antigen & PCR testing after completion of the treatment course.

I understand your level of anxiety at this moment, Do not worry. As you are on post-exposure prophylaxis and the viral load looks very low. The chance of transmission of HIV infection is significantly less. But still, complete the dose and get your blood tested, as I mentioned.

I hope this has helped you.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

Thank you for your reply.

I have attached three reports of her.

I want to know whether tablet Trioday is a good PEP medicine.

Thank you.

Hello,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

I understand your concern. The report suggests (attachment removed to protect the patient's identity) that the woman is likely to be in a window period. Since the viral load is significantly less, the chances of infection transmission are very low. Since you have started tablet Trioday (antiretroviral), please continue it and complete the course. This time, there is no rationale to change the post-exposure prophylaxis regimen. Tablet Trioday is an old regimen, but it is still good and has good antiretroviral activity and effectiveness.

I hope this has helped you.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hi doctor,

Thank you doctor for the reply.

I finished taking the tablet Trioday a month ago. I had fever, sweat, and chills at night, and since then, I have had muscle pain and joint pain. I am so worried now and cannot even breathe. Are these symptoms of anxiety or stress? I tested today for the fourth generation, but it came negative. Also, I have tested for HIV 1 RNA by PCR, which is also undetectable. Am I in the seroconversion period, and test results are delayed because of PEP? Her viral load was 51 copies after 11 days of exposure to me. So will it be considered untransmittable? Is there a chance of transmission because there was a cut on my frenulum?

Hello,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

I understand your questions.

It could probably be due to your stress. We cannot tell if this fourth-generation test is right or wrong since it can come negative in the window period (exposure after three months). The test result will not change due to post-exposure prophylaxis. The first three months or window period is the seroconversion period. Right now, I cannot comment on whether you are in the seroconversion period. A viral load of 51 copies per mL can not be considered untransmittable. For a known case HIV (human immunodeficiency virus) positive patient who is on proper anti-retroviral medication, its undetectable test result denotes an untransmittable scenario. Here, 51 copies per mL denote much less viral load, so there is less chance of transmission.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

Thank you doctor for the reply.

Will her viral load be less in ten days? Currently, her viral load is 51 copies per mL, but the viral load should increase much more in ten days, and if she was infected, the value should be quite high. Please elaborate and make me understand this point. If my fever and joint pain symptoms are of early HIV, then should it be detectable in current test results? Shall I take one more test immediately? Is it tough for me to wait for three months?

Hello,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

The viral load could probably be low ten days ago, but it depends on the individual status and immune response, which tends to vary. I suggest you test your blood for HIV (human immunodeficiency virus) PCR (polymerase chain reaction) from the 45th day from day of exposure. I do not think you will get the infection by looking into the viral load and your post-exposure prophylaxis. Stay calm. I can understand the level of anxiety you are going through right now. The final blood test is to be done after three months after exposure.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

Please find my attached reports. It shows a high value of herpes antibodies. Am I infected with the herpes virus, what shall be done now?

Thank you.

Hello,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

I am able to see only the ESR report. Can you upload your herpes report? Did you ever have anything like blisters in your genitals?

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

Please scroll through all the pages to see the full report. I am attaching it again. I do not have blisters, but I can see some black moles kind of spots in my private areas.

Hi,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

I am able to see only one report attached with this query and that is the ESR (erythrocyte sedimentation rate) report (attachments removed to protect the patient's identity). I am not able to see any other report or scroll down. If your IgG (immunoglobulin G) is positive, then it is indicative of past exposure. If your IgM is positive, then it indicates acute infection. Pertaining to Herpes, the treatment is provided for active herpes infection only.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

Please find my attached report of HIV 4th generation. Here, the index value is continually increasing. I have done HIV RNA PCR test also, but it shows that the target is not detected. The details are as follows:

Exposure date :10 months back.

PEP finish date: Nine months back.

Last PCR HIV test date: Eight months back (negative). But index is increasing for HIV antibodies.

Please advise as I am having symptoms.

Hi,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

I can understand your concern.

Since your PCR report is negative for HIV, we need not worry. The index is just the cutoff value during testing, so do not worry about it. It varies with batch-to-batch testing and the kits they use. It should be within the limit. Do get your blood tested for HIV 1/2 antibodies and HIV PCR the next month. Stay calm and relaxed. You will be fine.

Wishing you good health.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

I have done the Western blot test also, and the result is sero negative (not negative). Why is it not negative though all the antibodies and antigens are negative? My whole body feels itchy along with joint and muscle pain and some red spots are present on the hands, face, chest, and back. These symptoms started one month back from the last dose date of tablet Trioday (PEP). So, if it was due to HIV then it should have shown up in HIV RNA PCR test right? Or is it possible that sometimes we can have symptoms and still test negative for PCR? Please help.

Hi,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

Sero negative indicates that your serological study is negative for HIV. Do stay calm. The PCR and Western blot tests are very good tests. Since all these tests show negative at this point, there is nothing to worry about.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

I am still the same with symptoms and I kindly request you to let me know about the following:

1. Please find my attached body reports (two files attached). My CRP level is also high. Somewhere I read that HIV can cause this increased level too.

2. My muscle pain and joint pain along with my itchy body persist as I told u earlier. But, the 4th generation test is still negative (after 40 days of PEP) and DNA proviral test is also negative after 33 days of PEP. Some experts say that if symptoms are due to HIV, then the test must be positive because symptoms are produced when the body makes antibodies against HIV. Is it true?

3. Why HIV DNA PCR tests are not called conclusive? Waiting for 90 days is too long for Ag/Ab tests. So, if HIV DNA PCR tests are highly accurate, should they not be suggested for early detection? In my case, I want to conclude fast because I am staying away from my wife sexually and it has been already too long, and I cannot take risks for her. You already know my case risk is high.

4. If the final blood test is to be done three months post-exposure, then what is the use of HIV DNA or RNA tests as they have a very short window period?

You are the only doctor I have discussed everything from the beginning since my exposure, so your feedback matters to me. Kindly help.

Hi,

Welcome to icliniq.com.

Yes, I understand your query.

At the time of initial viral replication, the person may suffer from flu-like illness with or without other symptoms like fever and fatigue. During this time, the antibody is not found within detectable limits. We use methodologies like ELISA (enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay), CLIA (chemiluminescence immunoassay), or CMIA (chemiluminescent microparticle immunoassay) since all these are enzyme-based immunoassays to detect the antibodies and certain antigen like P24 antigen. Though PCR is a very good test, very low viral quantities can be missed out at times due to the detection limits. Both viral multiplication and antibody formation varies from individual to individual.

CRP is a nonspecific inflammatory marker, and it increases in many infectious and noninfectious etiologies. We usually do not do CRP for diagnosing HIV infection. It has been more than two months, since your exposure. If your 4th generation tests are negative by now, then most probably there is nothing to worry about. Now, a PCR test can be done. If the PCR test is negative by now, probably there is nothing to worry about. I understand how difficult you are feeling now. The reason why we wait for three months window period is due to various research carried out and their proven outcomes. The seroconversion takes up to three months in various population and it varies with genetic predisposition, immune status, and other factors. Everything will be fine. Stay calm.

Just do your HIV 1/2 antibody assay at the end of the third month or 90 days from exposure.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hi doctor,

Thanks for your quick reply.

I got all your points. Please let me know about the following. I am sorry to ask you so many things again but please help me.

1. My last HIV DNA proviral PCR was done eight months back (33 days after PEP, 63 days after exposure). Please find it attached. Will taking PEP affect the result or seroconversion? As HIV DNA PCR is said to be highly conclusive is there any chance that this test can still miss my infection in the given timeline of the test?

2. My symptoms started immediately after PEP like fever for three days and muscle pain and joint pain for 40 days and skin itching for the last three weeks. So, if the symptoms are so long then is it possible that still virus is not detected in PCR tests and Ag/Ab tests?

3. I took a tablet Trioday as PEP. Is there any possibility that all these side effects could be because of that medicine?

4. I got my creative kinase levels checked and it was 300 (lab reference less than 170). Does it give any idea?

5. You said that antibody testing needs to be done in 90 days so will not I be able to do HIV PCR earlier than that to conclude? Can I engage with my wife unprotected if again my PCR result is negative?

Hi,

Welcome to icliniq.com.

The side effects can be due to PEP. PEP usually does not interfere with the PCR tests. Several factors cause an increase in serum creatine kinase like exercise, thyroid problems, electrolyte imbalance, and even medications like anti retro viral drugs. Yes, you can do a PCR test earlier (but we cannot regard it as a conclusive result, but still, it is a very good indicator).

You have waited these many days. Just wait for a few more days. By now most of the patients will show positive tests through PCR post-exposure to an HIV-positive source (after 60 days), in case of being positive. In your case, the results are still negative, which indicates that there is no need to worry. We will just wait for day 90 and do our final test.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hi doctor,

Please check my reports for CPK, HS CRP, and CRP. All values are increased. Please review it and let me know what shall I do further. How to improve them? Can HIV cause all these or is it due to the Trioday medicine which I used as PEP? I still have muscle and joint pain and burning and itching sensation in my arms and there is no relief from it. Please help.

Hi,

Welcome to icliniq.com.

I acknowledge your lab reports (attachments removed to protect the patient's identity). Creatine kinase is 294 U/L, HsCRP (high-sensitivity C-reactive protein) is 6.08 mg/L, and CRP (C-reactive protein) is 6.73 mg/L. I notice an increase in creatine kinase, HsCRP, and CRP levels. At this point, the increase in creatine kinase could be due to strenuous activity like vigorous walking, psychological stress, and even inadequate hydration. The present season is such that, we may get seasonal flu and other mild illness which could increase the CRP level. Psychological stress is also attributable to an increase in CRP. For now, we will wait and observe. I suggest you do the following:

1. Drink at least two liters of water per day.

2. Keep your mind calm.

3. Have two cups of green tea per day.

4. Take good rest for at least two to three days.

5. Include ginger in your food if you are not allergic to ginger (you can make the ginger extract and add it to butter milk and drink it twice a day) since ginger is a good anti-inflammatory.

I want to know a few more things.

1. Did you have any flu or fever or infections a few days back?

2. Any history of cardiac problems in the family?

3. Are you facing severe psychological stress due to the current scenario?

4. Are you drinking adequate water in a day?

5. Are you doing any workouts or strenuous exercise or walking?

6. Are you facing any joint problems like joint pain in your legs or arms?

7. What is your weight and height?

Please let me know about the above-mentioned queries.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hi doctor,

Thank you for your detailed reply. Please note below and find attached my reports for basic tests.

1. Did you have any flu or fever or infections a few days back?

No, not at all.

2. Any history of cardiac problems in the family?

No.

3. Are you facing severe psychological stress due to the current scenario?

Yes, stress may be there as you know everything about my case now.

4. Are you drinking adequate water in a day?

May be around one and a half to two liters a day.

5. Are you doing any workouts or strenuous exercise or walking?

Mostly I take a rest.

6. Are you facing any joint problems like joint pain in the legs or arms?

Yes, for the last 45 days, I am having muscle and joint pain and itchy skin.

7. What is your height and weight?

My height is 6 feet and I weigh 231 pounds.

Hi,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

I am able to see your report (attachments removed to protect the patient's identity). For now, please follow my advice as mentioned earlier. We can follow up with HsCRP, CRP and creatine kinase after two weeks.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hi doctor,

Below is a recap and kindly refer to our above discussions in history. Exposure to commercial sex worker was found HIV positive with 51 copies of viral load.

1. Unprotected (bleeding penis) intercourse date: 10 months back. Tablet Trioday PEP (timing not maintained) finish date: 11 months back. Last 4th generation HIV test taken: Five months back but both given index values were 0.22 and 0.208 respectively. Although it is still below the cut-off, my earlier index values were around 0.1 so why has it increased now? Also, I surfed the internet and found that patients on PEP or PREP should cautiously monitor increasing index value so that it does not turn positive later.

2. I had taken an STD panel after 73 days of exposure in which everything was negative including HEP B, and C other than HSV1. I got high a HSV 1 positive. So, shall I do any retest now for any other STD if these tests were false negative due to their window period? Please guide me about it. Please find attached the old report.

3. Since I had unprotected exposure in a foreign country, is there a chance of HIV 2 and if so, what is the window period to detect it?

4. My symptoms of body muscle pain and itchy red pimples are still there although it is milder than previous. So, is there any HIV strain that is not being detected in these tests?

5. I have done an HIV DNA detector test and HIV 1 RNA PCR test after 90 days from PEP. Both targets were not detected. Is it possible that the virus is too low in my body to be detected in these tests? And which is the better test of these two since I am planning to take these tests again now?

6. Please see my attached reports of CBC. Some values are not ok, does it indicate anything related to HIV?

7. Also, some doctors suggest a window period of six and nine months after PEP in case of high-risk exposure. Considering my risk was high, shall I wait for this period to be over before having sex with my wife?

8. Last and important question: My HSV 1 value is too high. How can I save my wife and kids from this virus? We share food and utensils and stay together.

Please help.

Hi,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

No need to worry. The tests done after a window period of three months are sufficient. Both ELISA and PCR are very good tests and they do not miss HIV 1 and 2. I saw all the lab reports. It is a normal study. HSV IgG denotes past infection only, so do not worry about infection transmission to other family members. Transmission usually occurs only when you have active lesions.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

Thank you for the reply.

I am sorry I expected a little detailed reply against each of my points. Could you again take some time to reply to each point? You can understand my worry because my exposure was super high risk with an infected person and also experienced bleeding during the activity. I am not able to resume unprotected sex with my wife because of this worry. Also, can HSV 1 cause red pimples and red spots all over the body?

Hi,

Welcome to icliniq.com.

I acknowledge your query.

1. The cutoff you mentioned in the query denotes the cutoff value which is a measure of OD value during the reaction, which happens in all the normal tests. The measurement changes during each test. All the tests are usually done with all the positive and negative control for quality purposes. Do not worry about the index value.

2. There are two types of Herpes simplex virus. Herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV1) and Herpes simplex virus type 2 (HSV2). Among these, HSV 1 causes infection in pediatric and young adolescents and also to some extent in adults. Your HSV1 IgG is high, which indicates past HSV 1 infection, so there is nothing to worry about (you had the infection before). The only thing is, after the acute infection, the HSV virus stays dormant in the trigeminal ganglia for life long and can get reactivated during any point of life to cause re-infection, but you need not worry. HSV 2 is transmitted through sexual mode but your HSV2 is negative.

3. All the tests which we do, aim to detect both HIV1 and 2 infections. Rapid cards and ELISA detect both types. So, do not worry.

4. To date, we do not have an undetectable HIV. All your symptoms are routine issues, which could be due to climate and nutrition. Do not worry. Have a nutritious meal and a healthy lifestyle.

5. After 90 days of exposure, the viral load will never be low. No need to repeat any more tests.

6. Yes, I saw all the reports. All are within normal limits. Do not worry about hematocrit and absolute cell counts of lymphocyte and basophil count. MCHC (mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration) and mean platelet volume too are fine, so no issues.

7. You have crossed the window period and you have also undergone good tests after 90 days. So, please do not worry. You can go with your routine lifestyle.

8. Almost everyone including children will get HSV1 infection during their lifetime. So do not worry about it. Your HSV report indicates past infection with HSV 1 only.

The red spots could be due to allergies or skin infections. You can have a consultation with a dermatologist.

I hope my answer is brief and clear.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hi doctor,

I am back because I did some tests in the last few months, and now the exposure time is beyond nine months past my high-risk exposure with an HIV-infected person, but my titer value is going higher in an increasing trend. Am I slowly sero converting? Is there any other test I can do to rule out infection? Because still, I am away from my wife because of the fear of increasing index value. Today I checked and the value was 0.443, which is the highest of all till now. Please find the attached report and advise if I can be close to my wife or wait for some more time since the value is increasing. Kindly help.

Hi,

Welcome to icliniq.com.

Glad to have you back.

Your value denotes negative test result only. Do not mind about the value. Since it has been nine months, you have crossed the window period already. You are HIV negative. Do not worry.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

Thank you for the quick reply. Kindly reply to the below three points:

1. My worry is how is this coincidence possible that my HIV value is continually increasing in the last 20 to 30 tests which I have taken over nine months. How can I keep calm when the value is increasing? What if I get sero converted after one year or more? There are some exceptional cases on the internet.

2. As it is about my wife, I cannot take risks when I am physically intimate with her. Although it may be out of SOP, can I take the CD4 test, HIV1 RNA test, and HIV2 RNA test now? Or are there any other tests that you could suggest?

3. Since I was exposed to high risk in a foreign country, are there chances that any strain of HIV is not getting traced in my blood? As you know that my risk was high since the person was found with HIV viral load and I had all sorts of symptoms after that, so please give me an honest reply since I do not want to risk the life of my family.

Hello,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

You have crossed the window period. There is no necessity to worry.

Wishing you good health.

Thank you.

Same symptoms don't mean you have the same problem. Consult a doctor now!

Dr. N. Ashok Viswanath
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