What is the treatment for non-obstructing kidney stones?
Patient's Query
Hello doctor,
My nephrologist checked me for a hernia and it was absent. Then he suspected I had kidney stones. So I went for an ultrasound, which reported a 6 mm nonobstructing stone at midpole in the right kidney and a bunch of small ones on the left. Despite this finding, my nephrologist suggested that I simply drink water and wait, implying that the stones may pass on their own. He told me to see him after six months. Told him my symptoms were still ongoing and he gave me a course of nerve medication, thinking this was all related to nerve damage from exercising on a Peloton bike. The steroid, some type of Prednisone pack type thing does nothing and I still have the same symptoms. I have been reading online and talking to a close family member whose doctor says that a 6mm nonobstructing stone can and is probably affecting me. What is your opinion? I have an appointment this week with a PCP to get another opinion. This is bothering me mentally and I want to know what a urologist thinks. Kindly suggest.
Thank you.
Hello,
Welcome to icliniq.com.
I understand your concern.
I would like to know the following:
What are your symptoms?
For how long have you experienced those symptoms?
Is there any pain?
Is it associated with nausea or vomiting?
If there is hematuria, is the whole urine red or is it initial or terminal?
Is it associated with heavy exertion?
Are you passing clots?
Do you have any other medical history?
Do you have any history of joint pains?
How much is your daily water intake?
Kindly answer for diagnosis and prompt treatment.
Thank you.
Patient's Query
Hello doctor,
My symptoms are nausea, and pain in the right groin, thigh, hip, testicle, and the tip of my penis. I also have lower right back pain in the area of the kidney. Pain is not constant, it sometimes comes and goes and usually radiates. Post urine dribble and hesitation urinating sometimes. Sometimes I can feel a little pain in my right testicle and groin area when urinating. Pain is not present all day, it comes and goes. I cannot see any blood in the urine, but the lab sees moderate. I drank almost three to four liters of water yesterday and felt a little better than I have. Again this is all sporadic throughout the day. Never constant nor all at once. Medical history includes kidney disease that has been cured and membranous neuropathy. I have high blood pressure and had a pulmonary embolism 15 years ago because of kidney disease. CBC and metabolic panel is normal levels including bun. I have attached the last urinalysis a week ago and an ultrasound where they see an unobstructed kidney stone. The urinalysis I took a few weeks prior had more blood “moderate” in urine. I took another last week and it went down to low. Again CBC and blood are all normal in range levels, urinalysis is only one off. Negative on urine culture. Took STD tests all negative.
What is your thought on ultrasound? I think an unobstructed kidney stone is breaking havoc on me. The nephrologist says the kidney is doing good and drinking more water will make it pass. But my symptoms are the same. He does not appear concerned about the 6mm in the kidney midpole. But then again, he does not care about anything unless it deals with my blood pressure or kidney disease and since my bun is good he thinks I am good to go. Attached files. Kindly suggest.
Hello,
Welcome back to icliniq.com.
I have gone through your reports (attachment removed to protect the patient's identity). The microscopic hematuria (blood cells in urine on microscopy) may be due to prior nephropathy, any blood thinners due to an old pulmonary embolism, or due to any movement of the kidney stones. It may not require treatment at present. However, the pain described is usually not due to kidney stones. It appears more like nerve irritation or part of bladder pain syndrome- IC. For kidney stones, drink adequate water three to four liters per day, and drink lemon or orange juice. Avoid high oxalate and high purine foods. You can take Potassium Citrate plus B6 and Magnesium solution at least twice daily with water to prevent an increase in stone size. For the pain, I would suggest a trial of Pentosan Polysulfate 100 mg three times daily along with Amitriptyline 10 mg once daily for at least 20 days and see how it goes. Amitriptyline can cause sedation and in rare cases can affect heart rate.
I hope this helps you.
Thank you.
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