Patient's Query
Hi doctor,
The patient is oxygen-dependent because of pleurodesis for one month. She is suffering from breathlessness after talc pleurodesis. She has metastatic breast cancer with a distant spread to the lung and liver. There is residual pleural effusion along with bilateral lower lobe consolidation.
She has pleurodesis-related inflammation and interstitial pneumonia and interstitial lung disease due to pleural disease showing ground glass opacification. She has a talc-related leg injury. The patient is currently on a tablet of Methylprednisolone 16 mg every day.
Along with this, she is taking the tablet Mucinac 600 mg daily, three times a day. Blood reports, current X-rays, and CT scans are attached for your reference. His CT chest is suggestive of patchy areas of consolidation along with bilateral pleural effusion. Doctors are not sure about the reason for breathlessness. I need your valuable opinion to treat this breathlessness.
Kindly help.
Thank you.
Hello,
Welcome to icliniq.com.
I have read all the reports (attachment removed to protect the patient's identity), including your CT (computed tomography) scan. It is very sad to be in such a situation with multiple problems. Metastatic breast cancer with underlying lung comorbidities is the cause of her breathlessness. Overall, the distress is a result of all lung problems happening at the same time. First thing, having a malignant pleural effusion compresses both lungs and compromises oxygen dissociation in the blood.
Pleurodesis (procedure to adhere the pleura - outer layer of lungs) is performed again because of fibrosis around the lungs, which again limits oxygenation. At the same time, she has lung consolidation, interstitial disease, and residual effusion. In such a complicated situation, oxygenation is affected very much. So supplemental oxygen has to be continued to keep oxygen saturation above 95 %. If oxygen is not enough to maintain saturation, she may require long-term noninvasive ventilation. So, we are dealing with too many lung problems at the moment.
As and when the parameters improve, her distress will be reduced to some extent. Management of such cases should ideally be in the ICU (intensive care unit) with monitoring. Steroids are the mainstay of treatment for pleural inflammation, interstitial problems, and ALI (acute limb ischemia).
She is already receiving the tablet Medrol (Methylprednisolone) 16 mg thrice daily. Appropriate antibiotics according to sensitivity tests should be used to treat lung consolidation. It takes time for healing pleural inflammation, especially after talc pleurodesis and underlying lung disease.
Recurrent effusions are making the situation worse, for which guided aspirations are required to evacuate the pleural space for faster healing. Treatment of the underlying breast cancer simultaneously is very important, as effusions will recur because of uncontrolled malignancy.
Good nutritional and protein supplements are a must. Proper nursing care and prevention of bed sores should be sought. In total, in my experience, her respiratory distress is multifactorial, as we discussed above, and she will need time to improve with all supports. At present, she is on the best treatment for a lung problem.
But you should remember that any cancer, especially metastatic cancer, is a progressive disease, and we can only treat the symptoms but not the disease permanently. I hope she will respond to this maximum treatment and come out of this complex disease.
I hope it helped with the query.
Please let me know if you have any more questions on your mind.
I would be happy to guide you.
Thank you.
Patient's Query
Hello doctor,
Thank you for your reply.
Earlier, she took Piptaz 4 mg IV (milligram-intravenous) two times daily for 14 days. Currently, she is having a tablet of Medrol 16 mg once daily and not taking any antibiotics. Now, I am thinking of giving her the tablet Pirfenex 200 mg tds along with the tablet Medrol 16 mg.
Please suggest.
Thank you.
Hi,
Welcome back to icliniq.com.
At this moment, I will not recommend the tablet Pirfenex (Pirfenidone) as I do not think this case is idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis unless she has some collagen vascular disorder. Tablet Pirfenex is not recommended for any fibrosis. But, the final decision should be taken by the treating physician with appropriate evidence, like HRCT (high-resolution computed tomography) thorax or lung biopsy, in favour of IPF (idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis). So, I do not think tablet Pirfenex will help her at the moment. Tablet Medrol can be continued in tapering doses. Also, regarding antibiotics, if there is no fever or any laboratory evidence of infection or sepsis, they should not be used for the long term. So, what she needs now is steroids in tapering doses and oxygen support. The outcome depends totally on her response to the current appropriate treatment.
I hope I have addressed your concerns.
Feel free to reach out if you have any further questions.
Thank you.
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Answered byDr. Amol Kumar Wasudeorao Diwan
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