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How to deal with lower right rib pain and tension and urinary incontinence?

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Dr. Atul Prakash

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Published At September 7, 2023
Reviewed AtSeptember 14, 2023

Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

I am a 37-year-old male and I have two main problems: lower right rib pain and tension and urinary incontinence.

1. Lower right rib pain.

I have been in deep pain and stress due to the pain in the lower right rib for the last 10 years. I had an X-ray and ultrasound recently and the results are normal. I have suffered from a phobia, anxiety, and major depression. It took a toll on my health and most importantly caused muscle tension and migraine headaches. I feel my lower right rib has been deformed due to continuous tension and panic attacks over the years. It has compressed more inside the body and I feel poky and painful while breathing and sitting. I feel those ribs have become very weak in strength. There is redness in that area. When I touch the right and left ribs, I can see the difference in their positioning. The left rib can be felt and seen in a normal position, whereas the right rib is compressed inside and I do not feel the rib bones as much as the left side. I am taking an SSRI antidepressant called Lexapro for anxiety and depression, and it helps 50 % in reducing tension but does not resolve the compressed rib issue. What should I do? I have taken Baclofen and it helps to some extent but makes me sleep for long hours and have some drowsiness. And it could be difficult to withdraw Baclofen later. Naproxen helps and reduces the spasms, but again my concern is taking it long-term. At times I feel like taking muscle relaxants to relax those lower right ribs but I know they can be addictive and harmful in the long term. Is there a surgery option to put the ribs back in place to fix this issue once for and all? Can CT scan and MRI find out the compression and deformed position of the right lower rib? I need to know what is happening right there or else I will suffer for the rest of my life. I seriously had enough of it, since this rib pain and tension causes me anxiety and even depressed feelings. I find it difficult to do physical exercises like jogging and gym due to this and stress makes it worse. Relaxation exercises only partially help for a very brief duration, like 30 minutes.

2. Urinary incontinence

For a year, I have developed urinary incontinence. I do not know the exact reason for it. It could be the Lexapro drug, but I have been taking Lexapro for the last seven years. For incontinence, I was advised to take Solifenacin (Solifenacin succinate) 10 mg, and it is 70 % effective. I cannot quit Lexapro because it is the only antidepressant that helped me significantly with anxiety and depression. I have relapsed into depression in the past due to Lexapro withdrawal. I will appreciate your advice and options (including surgery if possible for rib pain) so I can discuss them with a specialist doctor at my place.

Answered by Dr. Atul Prakash

Hello,

Welcome to icliniq.com

I read your query and understand your concern. I will suggest only your rib problem as I am not a urologist. Some asymmetry in the rib cage is normal and if it is very obvious then you need to document this and assess the degree of depression or deformity of the rib with an X-ray or CT (computed tomography) scan. The symptoms that you have described all point toward the generalized anxiety disorders that you have and cannot be attributed to the rib issue in isolation. I say this because the human body is more resilient than you may think, otherwise people with missing limbs, or deformed limbs would never have achieved such physical prowess that allows them to break records in the Olympics. Baclofen (colloidal Silicon Dioxide, Magnesium Stearate) in small doses can be continued for a long time to counteract the muscle spasms without any harm. In addition, you should see a counselor to help with relaxation and perhaps join a yoga and meditation class that will help you further divert your mind away from this. I hope I have cleared all your doubts.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

Thank you for your reply. The issue is the compressed rib causes poking and pain and stresses me out very easily. After I get an MRI or CT scan, can there be a surgical option to resolve it? Every medication including Baclofen has some side effects, as Baclofen 5 mg for me causes too much sleep and I find it difficult to wake up in the mornings to go to work.

Answered by Dr. Atul Prakash

Hello,

Welcome back to icliniq.com

Yes, once we have documented that the rib or ribs are compressed or bent and that they are digging into the soft tissues or pleura (this will need a CT scan), they can certainly be surgically straightened out with plates or some other form of internal fixation. But we need evidence before we do so. Baclofen dose can be titrated to give a variable based on your tolerance. The other option is an indwelling pump which can be controlled by you so you can reduce your sedation. I hope this helps.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

Thanks a lot for your prompt reply.

I will consult an orthopedic surgeon shortly. Generally how much is the cost for such a type of surgery where you described straightening it out with plates? Like what range it might be. Are these surgeries and medical treatments expensive? And what is the availability of such surgical procedures? Is it a rare procedure, or are there enough orthopedic surgeons who do this kind of procedure, so I do not have a hard time finding such a specialist? Baclofen is excellent as a temporary measure, it relaxes both the mind and the muscle tension and does help me with side tension headaches also. I take 5 mg as needed, I use it frequently though, but I feel it is not just a muscle tension issue but also the rib bent and digging into the soft tissues. As you said, only a proper investigation will reveal the actual scenario.

Answered by Dr. Atul Prakash

Hello,

Welcome back to icliniq.com

It is not a common procedure but not something that cannot be done with the right instrumentation. Costs for an international patient are marked up and above the standard rates for a given hospital. You will find that a package will be offered rather than an individual breakup of surgical costs, implant costs, and hospital bed stay. The payment may be close to 1,366.23 US dollars depending​ on the hospital you choose, the implant you prefer, titanium or steel plates, the make, and the type of suite you choose. I hedge my bets that you will not require surgical correction, once your CT (computed tomography) is done. I hope this clears your doubts.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

Thank you for the reply,

The amount should not be an issue considering that surgery is required and corrects my issue and brings relief. The whole aim is to be able to be free from medications if possible. I do have premium insurance, which may cover those costs. But I need to check with a specialist who is proficient in such procedures. If the surgical procedure is required, can I recover in a month? Or does it take longer? I need to plan for that possibility. I know you speak out of the experience, but there is a lot of pain in that area and not just muscle tension but significant compression of the lower right ribs that significantly affects my quality of life due to pain and stress. Let us see what happens with the tests.

Answered by Dr. Atul Prakash

Hello,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

Ribs are known to heal constantly and rapidly, never coming across a rib non-union. With regards​ to pain, two to three weeks of pain and discomfort is to be expected, pain will not be topping the pain scale and should be controlled with analgesics. Getting back to work will take three weeks, this question will be answered better post-surgery rather than now. Safer to give yourself six weeks. I hope I have cleared your doubts.

Thank you.

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Dr. Atul Prakash
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