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Can genioplasty cause neck, spine, and shoulder pain?

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Published At June 12, 2023
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Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

I have been having sharp stabbing pain between my scapula and spine, along with neck pain. I am also having chest pain when bending over. The pain has progressively gotten worse over the last six months. At times I have shooting pain at the back of my head. I had extreme neck pain after a genioplasty surgery with bone advancement. I underwent a cervical MRI (magnetic resonance imaging) and needed a second opinion for the same. Please help. Thank you.

Hello,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

I read your query and understand your concern.

I am sorry to hear about your pain and would like to help as much as I can. I have seen your MRI in detail (attachments removed to protect the patient's identity). There are osteophytes at multiple levels, as well as two slipped discs, which produce indentation upon the thecal sac. There is compression upon the left-sided C6 nerve root by the herniated disc at this level. There are also some Schmorl's nodes at the cervical and thoracic spines, which are part of degenerative changes in the spine. So, you can share this information with the concerned orthopedician or physiotherapist, and I believe they can guide you further.

I hope you had a pleasant experience with icliniq.com.

I will always be available for you in case you have any queries.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

Thank you for your reply.

Can I ask you a few specific questions about the MRI?

Thank you.

Hello,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

Of course, you can ask further questions. Please proceed.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

I have a few questions about specific images.

1. On the T1 SAG 4 of 15 and T2 axial 23 of 56, is there a facet fracture at C4?

2. Also, on T2 axial image 23 of 56, do you see a fracture of the spinous process?

3. T1 axial 8 of 27- Do you see a fracture of the lamina?

I have been in so much pain for so long that I am determined to find a resolution. Thank you.

Hello,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

I have scrutinized the specific images of your concern. I find that indeed there are lucent lines across the mentioned regions (facet, spinous process, etc) in those images, which may raise the question of fractures. However, looking at the STIR (short tau inversion recovery) images, I find that there is no corresponding evidence of bone edema or inflammation. This means that even if these lines represent fractures, they would be old fractures and should not be producing any intense pain now. But perhaps that is not the case. And if there are indeed old fractures, they would be producing lump-like calli or calcification by now. To conclusively determine whether these lines actually represent fractures, you can discuss with your orthopedic doctor and get a CT (computed tomography) scan with thin-slice bone window images. In the meantime, I would suggest you follow the posture or physiotherapy advice you may have already received.

Follow-up with CT spine with bone window.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

Thank you. I think the initial injury actually occurred during my genioplasty surgery. I was just wondering if those areas looked like old fractures.

Hello,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

Well, cervical spine injuries have been rarely linked with jaw injuries (or surgeries), so that can be a possibility, albeit quite remote. If we take that possibility and add it to the faint lines seen on the MRI, we can build a picture that these lines represent old, unhealed fractures. So the possibility cannot be fully ruled out, and your suspicion may be the correct diagnosis.

Please follow-up with reports of CT spine.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

I appreciate your help very much. I have had a cervical spine CT done as well. I am going to attach my images. My doctor is looking into thoracic outlet syndrome as well. Thank you again for your help.

Hello,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

I understand your concern.

It is great to see that you got the CT scan done for now. We can make conclusions about the previous concerns. There is a tiny lucent defect at the spinolaminar junction at the D1 level, representing partial spina bifida rather than a laminar fracture. There is also a very faint lucent line across left-sided facets at the C4 level. It may represent an old fracture but almost healed. You had also spotted another line at the C3 level on the MRI, but that is not found on the CT. So, in summary, the fractures that you had been worried about are actually already healed or do not exist. I feel this information will give you some relief. Thoracic outlet syndrome is a reasonable consideration by your doctor. I have examined your MRIs again, but actually, the thoracic outlet was not fully included in the spine MRIs. So, in that case, your doctor may advise you to MRI the brachial plexus or thoracic outlet.

I am happy to have been of help and would be glad to advise further if and when required.

Till then, best wishes.

Regarding follow up

Ortho / neuro / spine dr

Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

Thank you for the reply.

Can you tell me which specific image shows the compressed nerve so that I can show it to my doctor? He does not see the compressed nerve. It seems this explains all my symptoms.

Thank you.

Hello,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

I can understand your concern.

The left-sided C6 nerve root compression is seen at the following places.

  1. T2 oblique sagittal : 11/14
  2. T2 sag : 5/15
  3. T2 axial : 33/56.

I hope this information will help you get appropriate treatment from the concerned specialist.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

Thank you once again for all your help.

I am still trying to get relief from my worsening pain. I have discussed the compressed nerve root with my doctor and I am being ignored. I am considering asking for an upright MRI to possibly have results that are more obvious to the doctors here. My symptoms have worsened to muscle weakness and muscle twitching in my left arm. I am also having pain in my right arm now. I am unsure if this is related or not. I have a few more specific questions that I am hoping will make the doctors take the time to look again at my images. The doctors are saying I have only a minor disc bulge with the nerve root compression being disputed. My pain is extreme and only worsening. On T2 SAG image 6 of 15, it appears to me that this image shows the bulging or herniated disc at c5 c6 compressing the exiting nerve root. Is this correct? If so, would this be considered an extraforaminal herniation nerve root compression? My pain is extreme and I am considering traveling to get treatment.

Thank you.

Hello,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

I can understand your concern.

About the MRI (magnetic resonance imaging), the nerve compression can be seen in images 5,6 of the T2 sag. It is a foraminal zone compression there. However, if the concerned doctors have considered this "not so significant", I will not disagree. I think the consideration of thoracic outlet syndrome still merits further evaluation.

I hope this information will help you.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

Thank you for the reply.

I was assessed for a thoracic outlet, and the doctor did not think my symptoms fit the diagnosis. My physical therapist agrees that nerve compression is causing my symptoms too. Can you also look at T2 axial image 38 of 56? The left side dorsal nerve root looks to me like it is outside of the thecal sac with possible compression of the dorsal root ganglion. Could you explain to me what is seen in this image?

Thank you.

Hello,

Welcome back to icliniq.com,

I can understand your concern.

The dorsal root ganglion is normally located just outside the thecal sac, in the foraminal or extraforaminal zone. So, in the image nos. 38-40 On the left side, we can see that there is a posterior osteophyte that is touching the anterior root or dorsal root ganglion, and that can be a possible point of compression too.

Hence, though the surgeons may consider that these are not so significant for surgery, physical therapy can indeed offer some benefit.

I hope this information will help you.

Thank you.

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Dr. Muhammad Shoyab
Dr. Muhammad Shoyab

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