Hello doctor,
Since 19 months, I have had severe problems with tingling in my feet. This started one week after a 27 km run, where I suddenly got pain in my feet and had to stop. The pain went away, but the tingling started in my left foot one week later. At first, some intermittent buzzing in the outside of the sole started, but after a while, this became permanent tingling and some numbness in the same area. The problems in my right foot began a few weeks later. As far as I can tell, the problems are located in the medial plantar nerve in the right foot, and the lateral plantar nerve in the left foot. There are also a lot of muscle twitching in the right foot arch, and the symptoms can easily be aggravated by tapping on the outside of the legs, from the knee and down. Tapping on the inside of the ankles also reproduce the symptoms. I have done three NCS and EMG, but it showed no signs of neuropathy or any other nerve disease. I am taking Gabapentin and Lyrica. Please help.
Hello,
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- If NCV (nerve conduction velocity) and EMG (electromyography) had been normal, there is possibility can be:
- Muscle fatigue.
- Ligament or soft tissue injury pain.
- Mild neuropraxia due to some soft tissue injury, which is not evident in NCV.
- Radiculopathy.
- I would like to know the following:
- What kind of pain is that? Is it burning, stretching, heaviness, pins and needle sensations, or other?
- Is it persistent or intermittent? If intermittent, have you been able to make out any triggering factor for that, like standing, walking, coughing, sneezing, or something else?
- Have you any back pain also?
- Is there any tenderness in the foot, ankle, or thigh?
- I suggest you get the following tests done:
- MRI of the lumbar spine.
- CPK (creatinine phosphatase).
- Along with Gabapentin and Lyrica (Pregabalin), I suggest you try using some muscle relaxants too. Revert with above-mentioned details for better understanding and judgment.
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Hello doctor,
Thank you for a quick reply. The pain is like pins and needles, tingling, and rarely some quick burning pain. The tingling is very uncomfortable and seems to be a little worse with activity, such as standing or walking. But it is always worse in the evenings. Tapping or even touching the leg and ankle is a triggering factor. No back, ankle. thigh, or foot tenderness. Regards.
Hello,
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- As per your description, your pain is kind of a neurogenic pain. With normal NCV and EMG, there can be a possibility of small fiber neuropathy, which is not detected in routine NCV test. And to prove it, you need to get QSART (quantitative sudomotor axon reflex test), arterial doppler, and SSR (sympathetic skin response) test.
- Routine NCV detects only large fiber neuropathy. As your problem started after a prolonged run. there is still a possibility of some soft tissue involvement or some vascular compromise to nerves.
- I suggest you increase the medications for neurogenic pain:
- Gabapentin 300 mg, thrice daily.
- Tablet Duloxetine 30 mg, thrice daily.
- Tablet Nortriptyline 25 mg, at bedtime.
- Consult your specialist doctor, discuss with him or her and start taking the medicines after their consent. Take full bed rest for a week
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Hi doctor,
According to my own research on the internet, and the history of hurting my feet after long distance running, it points to some kind of nerve entrapment in the foot. For example tarsal tunnel syndrome, medial plantar neuropraxia, Baxter's, etc. Is that a possibility? What tests should be done to confirm such a diagnosis?
Hi,
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- For tarsal tunnel syndrome, NCV test can be done. If routine posterior tibial nerve motor conduction is normal (as done in routine NCV study), special sensory conduction study can be done from medial plantar nerve and lateral plantar nerve.
- For performing this, you need an experienced neurophysiologist and in approximately 10 % normal individuals, it may be non-recordable. So clinical implications of its finding may be confusing.
- Also, you can try to get an MRI of the ankle, focusing at the tarsal tunnel to look for any nerve inflammation or narrowing at the tarsal tunnel. As you mentioned touching at the ankle as a trigger, do you mean tap on the site of nerve just behind medial malleolus? If it is so, it can be a Tinel's sign.
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Hi doctor,
Thank you for replying. Yes, Tinel's sign is present while tapping on both ankles, behind and a little bit above the medial malleolus. But even more so at the fibula head, around the peroneus nerve distribution. Tapping or touching there aggravates the symptoms in my feet. On the right, it produces more fasciculations in the arch and more tingling in the medial plantar nerve. On the left, it is just more tingling in the lateral plantar nerve.
Hello,
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- If tapping on fibula head also produces tingling in the peroneus distribution, it signifies involvement of multiple nerve sites.
- In a background of prolonged running up to 27 km, I think it to be possibly a mild type of complex regional pain syndrome, in which, there can be tingling, pain, and allodynia and NCV test can be totally normal.
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Hello doctor,
Thank you for replying. No, sorry I meant that the symptoms are just in the feet (medial plantar right and lateral plantar left) but can be provoked by tapping or touching on the outside of the lower leg. I have read about CPRS, but personally, I think it does not really match. There are no changes in skin color, hair, swelling, etc. Small fiber neuropathy has been ruled out by my doctors. All they said is that they do not really know and it might be a sensitization phenomena, whatever that means. Do you agree on this? In that case, what treatment would be best? Gabapentin and Lyrica do not help much, unfortunately. Something must obviously be very irritated or entrapped in my feet, because of the constant fasciculations and tingling. Any more suggestions?
Hello,
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- Skin color, hair changes, or swelling are not mandatory for CPRS. It may be a mild form of CPRS.
- Tapping at fibular head should not trigger pain, tingling in medial or lateral plantar nerve distribution. Both are branches of posterior tibial nerve, which is a branch of the sciatic nerve, while common peroneal nerve is already branched out from the sciatic nerve. So, this point is little conflicting for tarsal tunnel syndrome.
- Regarding management, if Gabapentin and Lyrica are not helping, I suggest you do the following:
- Increase the dose of Gabapentin and Lyrica.
- Add Duloxetine and or Nortriptyline.
- Also, I suggest having a trial of short course (two weeks) of oral steroids (Tablet Prednisolone) after ruling out contraindications for steroids.
For more information consult a neurologist online --> https://www.icliniq.com/ask-a-doctor-online/neurologist
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