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I have E. coli infection and getting pain in stomach and groin. Please advise some treatment.

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I have E. coli infection and getting pain in stomach and groin. Please advise some treatment.

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Dr. Nithila. A

Published At July 17, 2019
Reviewed AtOctober 9, 2023

Patient's Query

Hello doctor,

I have been experiencing stomach pain, stomach bloating, and diarrhea for the past 15 days. The diarrhea is not regular. After undergoing urine culture, CECT scan, ultrasound, and all blood tests, it was detected that I have an E. coli bacterial infection. As part of the treatment, I am taking Ciprofloxacin and Nitrofurantoin. However, after taking Nitrofurantoin, I experience pain in the stomach and the right side of the groin area. Additionally, when I walk for about one kilometer, I feel pain in the groin area and find it difficult to walk for more than two kilometers. I also have kidney stones on both sides and a grade II fatty liver. Kindly provide your insight.

Hello,

Welcome to icliniq.com.

I read your query and understood your concern. You have bilateral renal pelvic obstruction due to stones and also have diabetes with a urinary tract infection. The pain in the groin is caused by pelvic renal calculi, and the pain can radiate to the groin area. To treat the infection, I suggest you take a tablet of Levofloxacin 500 mg once a day for 14 days and Amikacin 500 mg injections twice a day for 14 days (if serum creatinine is less than 1.6 mg/dl). Afterward, the stones will need to be cleared bilaterally to fully resolve the infection, as the pus is associated with the presence of stones. Additionally, the stomach upset and abdominal pain you are experiencing are likely due to Nitrofurantoin, which can cause gastritis and acidity. Nitrofurantoin may not be the appropriate choice for treating this infection, but it can be taken for maintenance therapy. I suggest you get your diabetes treated and have your serum creatinine checked once you start the Amikacin injections. The presence of stones can prevent the complete clearance of the infection, so treatment for them is crucial for effective treatment. I suggest you consult a specialist, talk with them and take the medications with their consent. I hope this has helped you. Kindly follow up if you have more doubts.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Thank you for the reply doctor,

I have undergone Non-Contrast Computed Tomography of Kidney, Ureter, and Bladder. Please review the results and provide advice on how to proceed with my treatment. Currently, I am taking Levofloxacin and receiving Amikacin injections. Kindly help.

Hello,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

I read your query and understood your concern. I have reviewed your reports (attachment removed to protect the patient's identity) As per the CT (computed tomography) scan results, there are stones in both kidneys causing minimal obstruction. There are three treatment options available in your case as mentioned below:

  1. PCNL or Miniperc (Percutaneous Nephrolithotomy or Minimally Invasive Percutaneous Nephrolithotomy): This procedure involves removing the stones through a small puncture in the back, which goes through the kidney and enters the renal pelvis. The stones are then crushed using laser or mechanical energy, leading to complete clearance (100 %) of the stones.
  2. RIRS (Retrograde Intrarenal Surgery): In this method, stones are removed through the natural urinary passage, that is the penis. Flexible ureteroscope and laser are used for the procedure. It is the costliest option among the three and carries a risk of kidney infection due to high-pressure irrigation. The chances of stone clearance with RIRS are around 95 %.
  3. ESWL (Extracorporeal Shock Wave Lithotripsy): This is an outpatient procedure where stones are crushed using focused magnetic or water pressure waves. It is the least invasive of all options, but the chances of stone clearance are only 60 %.

You will need to decide which treatment option you would like to proceed with. There is always a chance of recurrence, as stone formation is often related to metabolic issues. Addressing the underlying metabolic problem based on stone analysis is essential to prevent future stone formation. I hope this has helped you. Kindly follow up if you have more doubts.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Thank you for the prompt reply doctor,

I have attached my new reports. Kindly review them and provide your insight.

Hello,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

I read your query and understood your concern. I have also reviewed the reports you attached (attachments removed to protect the patient's identity). RIRS (Retrograde Intrarenal Surgery) is performed using a larger scope, and since here ureters are relatively small, pre-stenting is required. The stent insertion will lead to the dilatation of the ureter, facilitating stone retrieval in the next procedure. ESWL (Extracorporeal Shock Wave Lithotripsy) is unlikely to completely clear the stone unless only small fragments of soft stone remain. The pain you are experiencing is due to the stent and will persist as long as the stent remains in place. However, in most cases, the pain is bearable. If the pain becomes unbearable, I suggest you consider getting the stent removed. Changing the doctor may not be necessary, instead, I suggest you discuss with your doctor the option of clearing the stone in a second sitting using RIRS instead of ESWL. This is a more sensible approach, as performing RIRS with a stent in place is easier, and the narrowness of the ureter would have improved after stent insertion. I hope this has helped you. Kindly follow up if you have more doubts.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Thank you for the reply doctor,

I met with the doctor a few days ago, and he informed me that he has placed a stent and will crush the stones in the next procedure. Although my X-ray of the right kidney does not show any stones, he mentioned that they might not be visible on X-ray and advised me to return after ten days with a urine culture. The doctor will then perform RIRS for the right kidney and proceed with the same procedure for the left kidney in the following sitting. Currently, I am feeling fine, but the treatment process seems quite lengthy and painful. I wonder why the doctor did not opt for a different procedure. He explained that performing a different procedure could have led to complications. In addition to my kidney issues, I am experiencing a cold and cough, and I have noticed a bad smell coming from my nose. Kindly advice regarding both the kidney stones and the bad smell. If there are any medications available to alleviate the bad smell, please let me know. I am uncertain whether the bad smell is due to the cold, sinuses, or if it might be related to bacteria in my stomach. Kindly help.

Hello,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

I read your query and understood your concern. As I mentioned earlier, the reason for not performing RIRS last time could be due to tight ureters. However, now that you have a stent, your ureters would have dilated, making RIRS easier to perform. It is my practice not to do procedures on both kidneys simultaneously to avoid the risk of infection transferring from one kidney to the other. Treating both kidneys at the same time could be challenging. So, your doctor's suggestion of doing one side at a time is appropriate. Regarding the bad smell from your nose, it may be due to sinusitis. I suggest you consult a specialist and talk with them regarding your sinusitis issue. Rest assured, the smell is not a result of any bacterial infection in your kidneys. I suggest you follow up after your RIRS procedure. I hope this has helped you. Kindly follow up if you have more doubts.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Thank you for the prompt reply doctor,

My second RIRS of the Right Kidney was done a month ago, and I was discharged the next day. I am currently feeling fine. The doctor informed me that the stone has been fragmented into dust and will now pass through my urine. A new stent has been inserted in my Right Kidney. In the next procedure, the doctor will remove the stent from my Right Kidney and check for any remaining stone fragments while simultaneously inserting a stent in my Left Kidney. During this time, I had to take numerous medications, including antibiotics, injections, and general anesthesia, before and after the RIRS procedure. This medication regimen made me feel sick. I think that I will need to go through these procedures three more times, once for each kidney. I am worried about the impact on my health. The second RIRS was performed one month after the first RIRS, which was done two months ago. I wonder if it would be better to wait for at least one month before undergoing each subsequent procedure, as it takes about two weeks to fully recover my health. The whole process has been mentally challenging for me. Kindly provide your opinion.

Hello,

Welcome to icliniq.com.

I read your query and understood your concern. I suggest you allow a minimum of four weeks between two procedures as this duration aids the healing process for the kidney. In cases of emergency, the time between procedures can be less, but that is not applicable in your situation. Although the process may be mentally challenging, it provides sufficient time for the kidney to recover. I hope this has helped you. Kindly follow up if you have more doubts.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Thank you for the reply doctor,

My second RIRS procedure for the Right Kidney Stone was done a month ago. The doctor now plans to insert a stent in the Left Kidney, remove the stent from the Right Kidney, and check for any remaining dust in the Right Kidney. I am feeling much better after the second RIRS, but the thought of undergoing three more procedures for removing the Left Kidney stone makes me nervous. I am concerned about the long-term effects on my health and possible complications later in life due to the repeated anesthesia, antibiotics, and surgeries. I have set up a home gym with a multi-equipment and cross trainer to strengthen myself for these operations. Can I use these equipments after ten days of each surgery if I feel okay, or should I stick to light exercises like walking? I have undergone a few tests again, and I am wondering if my blood sugar levels are alright. Within two months, my weight has reduced from 213.85 pounds to 189 pounds. The liver doctor advised me to further reduce my weight to 165.35 pounds for a healthy liver and better diabetes control. What is your advice on this? I have included fruits in my diet along with dal and roti. Will eating fruits like papaya, guava, and oranges increase my blood sugar levels? After these two RIRS procedures, I am experiencing more allergic problems. However, taking Levocetirizine provides relief. Is it safe to continue using Levocetirizine, and could this be due to the medicines taken after the surgery? Lastly, I have attached my right kidney stone analysis report. Please suggest a suitable diet and lifestyle based on the report. Kindly help.

Hello,

Welcome back to icliniq.com.

I read your query and understood your concern. Regarding your questions, following are my opinion:

  1. The primary goal is to eliminate the stones with minimal complications, so the number of procedures is not a concern as long as there are no complications.
  2. Exercise is beneficial for your overall health, and there are no contraindications for engaging in physical activity.
  3. Fruits can impact blood sugar levels, so it is advisable to consult a physician or diabetologist regarding their role in managing diabetes.
  4. Allergies should not be a major concern if relieved by cetirizine or any other suitable medication.
  5. It would be helpful to have stone analysis from both kidneys to provide you with a comprehensive diet plan.
  6. Sugar-free potassium magnesium citrates with vitamin B6 in various trade names can aid in preventing stone recurrence.
  7. Losing excess weight is beneficial, and your physician's recommendation to reduce weight is appropriate.

I look forward to receiving the stone analysis from both kidneys to offer you a comprehensive diet plan. I hope this has helped you. Kindly follow up if you have more doubts.

Thank you.

Patient's Query

Thanks for the reply doctor,

I had my third RIRS a few days ago. This time, I felt uneasy as they gave me antibiotics instantly before making me unconscious, which caused an allergy on my face and eyes. Nonetheless, they proceeded with the operation, removed the stent from my right kidney, and checked for any remaining stone fragments. All the stones in the right kidney were successfully removed, as the doctor confirmed through the camera. Additionally, a stent was inserted in the left kidney. The doctor attempted to go inside the ureter but could not, so the next RIRS in the left kidney will be performed in the next sitting, possibly after a month. I experienced significant blood loss again, lasting for four to five days.

My questions are as follows:

  1. I am feeling weak, and my weight has reduced from 209.44 pounds to 187.39 pounds. Can I proceed further with more sittings safely, and how many more operations will be required to flush out the left kidney stone?
  2. I have been taking Silodosin and Tolterodine continuously since after the first RIRS. Is it okay to continue with these medications, and do you recommend any energy tonic or medicine?
  3. Over the last three to four days, I have not been feeling well, experiencing slight fever and stomach discomfort. Could I have an infection? I have undergone urine and a few blood tests. I will upload the reports for your review and advice on any suggested medication.
  4. I am experiencing discomfort in my eyes and reduced vision without glasses. Could this be related to the recent operations?
  5. I have to perform the TMT test for Life Insurance. Can I do it with the left kidney stent in place?
  6. Should I take any anti-allergy medicine to cope with the medicines administered during the operation?
  7. I am currently getting checked for diabetes. The doctor has suggested lifestyle changes, weight reduction, and a diet plan, along with some tests. Should I take blood sugar medicine until I recover from all these operations?

Kindly provide your opinion my issues.

Hello,

Welcome to icliniq.com.

I read your query and understood your concern. Basically, bleeding always occurs due to the presence of the stent, and that cannot be the reason for your weight loss. I feel this is due to repeated procedures, resulting in infection. If you are getting treated for diabetes at a reputed hospital, I suggest you seek a second opinion regarding your kidney stones at there as well. Typically, RIRS should be completed in three sittings bilaterally that is stenting both sides in the first sitting, RIRS on one side in the second sitting, and RIRS on the other side in the third sitting. So, if that is not the case, please take a second opinion. The symptoms of feverishness and weakness are signs of infection. I suggest you get a urine culture done and get treated accordingly. You need to continue all medications for diabetes as prescribed. There is no relation between your eyesight and RIRS. I suggest you continue the drugs you are taking for urological problems. There is no harm in taking a Hematinic . But I strongly suggest you take a second opinion regarding RIRS and infection to a specialist, talk with them and take the medications with their consent. I hope this has helped you. Kindly follow up if you have more doubts.

Thank you.

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